A lot of times with artists, even with everything they put into their vision, they don’t have an explanation. But I wanted to know if there was a deeper thought process here. I’ll watch a romantic comedy and cry, and I don’t admit that all the time either. But here you’ve got a young guy, a new guy, doing confounding things that have a visceral effect. That established a new territory for film, and it added to everything that came after that. I think that Buñuel, maybe given where he was in the history of film, had an intention not unlike the French New Wave, to break some of the genre expectations and take chances that were provocative solely for the means of being provocative. So I think that instead of making the references and putting him into some sort of historical context, I had an opportunity to try to investigate intention, and I think that’s really what I wanted. But as a person who takes things in, a lot of that stuff still seems to be an intellectual exercise. I know Buñuel, sure, and I know Ionesco plays, and I understand absurdism. But at some other point, you were talking about how you loved Buñuel films. I listened to your interview with Yorgos Lanthimos, where you sounded so baffled by the meaning of his movies, as if you were demanding a literal explanation. I get this sense from you on the podcast that you’re sort of reticent to reveal that side of you. And then there was a moviehouse in town, some foreign movies, and that world of film. In high school, I had a buddy, Devon, and we’d really get excited about Scorsese and Coppola. I guess maybe some of the information went in. I read Yuri Lotman, I read about semiotics, but it’s not my life. But when you study film, there’s a lot of stuff that is so important in the history of film, and no amount of explanation can make me get it. When I see something I can’t fundamentally understand, I always think I’m stupid, and I put the burden on me. I was just fascinated with what I didn’t understand about movies. ‘Wild Life’ Continues Filmmaking Duo’s Non-Fiction Winning Streak
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